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Started by l.a.coder at 12-19-2005 7:54 PM. Topic has 3 replies.

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   12-19-2005, 7:54 PM
l.a.coder is not online. Last active: 4/12/2007 6:55:48 AM l.a.coder

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Articular Cartilage Defects
On arthroscopic knee surgery op reports, I frequently run into the term articular cartilage defect. The surgeon is debriding these defects in the medial, lateral or patell-femoral compartments. It is generally accompanied by the size of the defect and the grade level. Is this considered chondromalacia in all circumstances? I generally code it as such if the patient has been given that diagnosis previously and it falls into one of the compartments being debrided. When I'm unable to confirm chondromalacia I've been using 718.86. I'd appreciate some opinions on this question.
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   12-25-2005, 3:50 PM
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Re: Articular Cartilage Defects
I code 717.9 for these, unspecified internal derangement of the knee.  (I go to cartilage disorder, knee).  I checked this one out with an orthopedic surgeon I know stays on top of coding issues and that's what he uses too.  Hope that helps!

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   12-27-2005, 8:40 PM
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Re: Articular Cartilage Defects
Thanks for the response. I've used that code also. Sure wish the surgeons would be more specific when diagnosing these particular problems.
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   12-28-2005, 6:55 PM
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Re: Articular Cartilage Defects
Yup, I know what you mean- I think part of the problem is also that I have docs (like the one I mentioned above) that are very good at documenting the specific info, there just aren't specific enough codes for it.  Either way, I'll take knees over shoulders anyday :D.

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